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Sports Card Radio Called to Testify – Leaf Trading Cards Objects!

Hear ye, hear ye!

The honorable Upper Deck Trading Card Company is seeking the expert testimony of Sports Card Radio owners Colin and Ryan Tedards.

In UD's prolonged court battle with rival card company Leaf Trading Cards, the Tedards twins could be the key to knocking out CEO Brian Gray forever. 

In a dramatic response, lawyers for Leaf Trading Cards are seeking to block the expert testimony of the sports card podcasting moguls.

Only a judge can decide what will happen next. 

Stay tuned for exclusive updates on Sports Card Radio.

Adjourned. 

Show #232 @GaryVee Haters – Confronting Pack Searchers – Heritage/Optic + More

On today’s show we discuss some of the new sets that have gone live including 2020 Topps Heritage and Optic Basketball. If you feel these sets are overpriced or out of your budget, I give you some tips on how to acquire the cards. Sports Cards are RED HOT!! Like stocks, homes or anything for that matter – it’s probably a good idea to be a SELLER in that type of market. I’ve seen some recent social media postings where people are confronting PACK SEARCHERS at Target/Wal-Mart. I tell you why that’s a REALLY BAD IDEA. The NFL draft is coming – I give you my prediction on what type of class it might be. Finally our main topic is GaryVee promotes the hobby on a daily basis – and is often criticized for it. I run down collectors WHO WANT HIM STOPPED and tell you what I think. As always, today’s podcast is sponsored by NO ONE! Enjoy!

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@GaryVee: Ignore The Card Cops

Gary Vaynerchuk has caught the trading card bug. Like the Coronavirus, he’s been spreading it via social media postings and influencing his many followers to do the same.

For some, it’s welcomed attention for the industry.

For others, it’s “too much power” and must be put to an end!

Take for example this post from @OldTownCards where he outlined his concerns about someone sharing their passion for the hobby:

Here’s a summary of the tweeters complaints, which are shared by many others in the hobby:

  • Gary has too much influence
  • Gary doesn’t know enough about the players he’s hyping.
  • Gary is hyping cards only to sell them later at higher prices.

Let’s address the 1st point that Gary has too much influence.

Beckett Magazine would publish Hot Lists, Hot/Cold, rate players as “Stars, Semi-Stars, and Commons”. What Gary is doing is simply the 2020 version of what Beckett used to have an exclusive license to do.

Thinking we as collectors need to stop this type of influence is foolish. However, even more foolish, is thinking you need to step in and protect other collectors – as if you were their mom or the cops.

If that’s the role you want to play, why not try to stop teenagers from smoking or doing drugs?

Ultimately I think many of these collectors are simply jealous of Gary’s following and probably the fact his budget to buy pictures of men is higher than their annual salary.

The second point that Gary isn’t researching players is laughable. Where in the sports card collecting handbook does it say we need to be experts in analyzing athlete performance? Tim Tebow cards sell just fine – and he isn’t going to make the HOF in the NFL or MLB.

Players like Wander Franco have never played a game in front of more than a thousand people – yet collectors pay small fortunes to acquire his cards.

Prices of goods are based on supply & demand – not your knowledge of hitting a fastball or throwing a football.

Gary understands basic economics – which is far more valuable than analyzing a players step-back jumper or 40-yard dash time.

Finally the last point that Gary is “pumping & dumping” cards is pure comedy.

First, who’s to say that the cards he’s buying weren’t undervalued in the first place?

Second, where’s the evidence he’s even selling the cards?

When I buy a stock and publish an article about it – just because it goes up means I’m guilty of pumping?

When Gary’s picks on what cards to buy doesn’t work out, people are quick to point that out as well.

You can’t have it both ways.

And if Gary wants to buy cards and resell them when/if they achieve higher prices – where in the hobby handbook is that not allowed?

Card cops are quick to critique Gary, but are silent on issues like card trimming, Topps and Panini goofs, Razzing illegal raffles, shill bidding, etc.

Not saying everyone needs to be a card cop – but come on rookies – other collectors don’t need you to save them from buying pictures of men.

Show #231 Blowouts Blowup! + Topps Conference + Breakers Are SCRUBS!

On today’s show we discuss the 2020 Topps Industry Conference with Ryan @SportsCardNews who attended the even for the second year in a row. We discuss what types of things you could expect if you attend the show in the future, including giveaways, athlete appearances and takeaways you can learn. We discuss an altercation between Tom Fish, owner of Blowout Cards, and Ryan in the hallway. We discuss how group breakers are the “scrubs” in this industry – mainly because they care more about being liked than making money. 

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2020 Topps Industry Conference Live Blog

News, insight and coverage from the 2020 Topps Industry Conference, February 23-25, 2020. 

Ryan returns to his old stomping grounds to see what is happening in the world of sports cards.

PODCAST: Show #231 2020 Topps Industry Conference Recap Show


Tuesday 1:49 pm

Group Breakers don't make money breaking Topps Transcendent Baseball. Sales don't equal profit. 


Tuesday 1:46 pm

Group Breakers pushing Topps to create a breaker friendly Topps Heritage sku.


Tuesday 1:33 pm

Topps: 'The Rock' autographs are almost impossible to get into a product. Hulk Hogan is very difficult.


Tuesday 1:25 pm

Topps looking to launch new case break event at The National 2020. Similar to The Million Card Rip Party.


Tuesday 1:14 pm

Some shop owners (that have a direct account with Topps) are frustrated that they are required to buy a minimum amount of product, but group breakers are not. 


Tuesday 1:08 pm

Despite a booming sports card market, Topps was worried at the start of 2019 when Series 1 Baseball didn't sell as well as anticipated. 2020 has started off much better according to Topps GM David Leiner.


Tuesday 11:25 am

If you saw some previews of a new Topps Chrome Basketball, Topps GM David Leiner said that product doesn't exist anymore. 


Tuesday 11:18 am

2020 Topps Series 1 saw about a 10% increase in production over 2019 S1.


Tuesday 10:52 am

Neil Young "Keep on Rocking in the Free World" playing during a break in the conference. 


Tuesday 10:24 am

If you buy Scott's "Miracle-Gro" there is a chance you'll find Topps baseball cards inside someday. 


Tuesday 9:46 am

National Baseball Card Day will be three weekends in a row this year. 


Tuesday 9:08 am

Topps creating new program "1/1."

People will be able to make their own card, design, pick image, and bring it to an event to get signed by an athlete. 


Tuesday 9:05 am

Topps Star Wars stuff


Tuesday 9:02 am

Topps WWE stuff


Tuesday 8:57 am

Topps MLS stuff


Tuesday 8:55 am

New Topps licenses


Tuesday 8:50 am

2020 Topps Transcendent details


Tuesday 8:48 am

2020 Topps Allen & Ginter Chrome. Hobby only


Tuesday 8:48 am

2020 Topps Big League


Tuesday 8:43 am

2020 Topps Pro Debut getting Jumbo boxes


Tuesday 8:43 am

2020 Topps Stadium Club Chrome Update


Tuesday 8:41 am

2020 Topps Sterling


Tuesday 8:41 am

Luis Robert will be in Series 2


Tuesday 8:37 am

Idea to put box topper in jumbo products came from a dealer. 


Tuesday 8:35 am

New Topps brand manager, Aaron Abrams, used to work at Upper Deck.


Tuesday 8:28 am

Pearl Jam "Jeremy" playing just before conference starts. 

At home drawing pictures... of mountain tops....... with him on top......


Tuesday 8:27 am

A little warmer if you sit toward the back of the room.


Tuesday 8:18 am

Dealer: "I'm so tired I was up until 3 am." 


Tuesday 8:15 am

Free stuff from Topps. 


Tuesday 8:12 am

Metallica 'Enter Sandman' playing as dealers eat breakfast.


Tuesday 7:47 am

Last day of the conference. Kris Bryant was the guest at the axe throwing event. If it was Buster Posey and I missed it, I would have felt a twinge of regret. 


Monday 5:08 pm

Skipping the axe throwing event to hang out with a girl I met while living in Arizona. 


Monday 4:09 pm

Shop owner Indy Card Exchange has over 600 active kids club members. Over 150 have signed up this year alone. 


Monday 4:01 pm

Dealer asked audience what to give girls who come into the shop and don't collect cards, someone shouted, "Beanie Babies."


Monday 3:49 pm

Best dressed from this shop owner trio is "Meelypops" (far left). His shoe game elevated him to the top.


Monday 3:29 pm

National Baseball Card Day is August 8. 


Monday 3:29 pm

Dealer: "It's so cold in here, that's why they gave us those free blankets."


Monday 3:25 pm

Single player electronic Craps machine. Wow, not sure I've seen that. Almost skipped the next presentation to fire off. 


Monday 3:00 pm

Soundgarden's 'Spoonman' being played during the snack break.


Monday 2:47 pm

Best dressed, Bundesliga presenter. 


Monday 2:32 pm

The MLS renewed its exclusive card license with Topps.

A complicated process this year, as the MLS players recently unionized. The players forced the league to seek bids from other card companies but Topps still prevailed. 


Monday 2:30 pm

The Vayner Media presentation ended with a video message from Gary Vee encouraging the group to use IG ads.


Monday 12:54 pm

Stone dead freezing in the conference room. Maybe the poor dealers buried under snow half the year are used to the cold temps. 


Monday 12:43 pm

Some of the beef with Tom Fish of Blowout Cards comes from the 2018 National.

Ryan was shooting a video of the wax box sellers at the show. It's something he's done for many years. The videos are positive and can be seen as free promotion for the companies there. 

Fish approached Ryan during this video and told him to stop filming the Blowout table.

The next day Ryan walked by the Blowout table and asked Fish in front a large group of people if "he fixed his website yet."


Monday 12:40 pm

There was a point in the Star Wars presentation when the bass from the movie trailer rattled a light fixture off the wall. Or was it "the force" they speak about?


Monday 12:30 pm

So far it's roughly the same content as the 2019 conference. Topps typically, even in their card sets, just copies the same playbook year after year. 


Monday 12:01 pm

Another beautiful day in Arizona. A truly charmed place. 


Monday 12:01 pm

The Star Wars presentation is always on point. I don't know much about the series, but I learn a lot during this conference. 

Disney+ had 28.6m subscriptions in its 1Q launch. The old movies can make as much as the new movies. 

I love how they clearly define their fanbase. From gamers, to collectors, to kids, it feels like the company has a plan for everyone. In my opinion, the same can't be said when Topps, Panini, or Upper Deck talks about the fanbase of card collectors. 


Monday 10:58 am

Sublime "Santeria" playing on the loud speaker before Star Wars presentation. 


Monday 10:45 am

A visibly angry Tom Fish of Blowout Cards verbally calls out Ryan of Sports Card Radio in the hallway. 

Fish: "You are garbage" 

Ryan: (fresh from a smoke break in the Tesla) "Why do you think that?"

Fish: "You and your site. You don't write about any of the other sites that crash. You are garbage."

Ryan: (still high) "I wrote about Topps?" (Actually twice. LOL. Topps Hacked, Topps Hacked Again)

Fish: (walking away) "You are a joke, you're garbage."

Ryan: (buzz not killed) "What other sites?"

Fish: (no response).


Monday 10:24 am

Break in the action until 11 am local time, a Star Wars presentation coming up next. 


Monday 10:10 am

Topps gave away a box of 2020 Topps Heritage Baseball. The product has not come out yet. 


Monday 10:10 am

Schaefer: doing contests to get positive reviews written about you online is illegal. 


Monday 10:04 am

Schaefer mentions Lululemon. A staple of the twins wardrobe. 

Interesting that two of the brands the twins promote, Lululemon and Tesla, were given as positive examples in marketing during the presentation. 


Monday 9:48 am

Schaefer mentions Tesla having a bigger market cap than Ford. 

I find it interesting that Tesla doesn't advertise and the only haters are people who can't afford the cars or are short the stock. 


Monday 9:45 am

I personally find many of the marketing and social media communication from dealers and breakers comes off as fake.


Monday 9:36 am

Keynote speaker Mark W. Schaefer giving a broad overview of marketing. 

Enjoyable for someone like me, but this group of shop owners, dealers, and breakers could perhaps use much more targeted content.


Monday 9:00 am

Topps MLB exclusive runs through 2025


Monday 8:52 am

Anonymous dealer: The Upper Deck Conference blows this one away.


Monday 8:51 am

Top selling MLB jerseys


Monday 8:47 am

Michael Posner, Director, Authentication at MLB going over some of the nuts and bolts events and reach of the league. 

Not much card content. 


Monday 8:35 am

Conference was sold out this year

Video message from Ryan Braun and other MLB players welcoming attendees. 

NO live video from the show. But you can live blog!


Monday 8:07 am

Another card trimmer exposed on Blowout Forum. Dennis Pevarnic of South Lake Tahoe, CA is accused of selling trimmed and altered cards mostly through card shows.

See more card trimmers on the Sports Card Radio homepage


Monday 8:03 am

Morning free stuff from Topps. Altuve was one of the worst autos you could hit. 


Monday 8:00 am

Aerosmith 'Janie Got a Gun' playing on the speakers as conference attendees eat breakfast. 


Monday 6:40 am

Last nights date went so well she ended up with Ryan's gray Lululemon hoodie!


Sunday 9:18 pm

Nobody else had a Rolex in the building. Most dealers are in a mode right now where they are spending like crazy to try and scale up their business. 


Sunday 8:30 pm

Angels prospect Jo Adell was feeling the Rolex.


Sunday 7:30 pm

Cut-off sleeve t-shirts are a bad look even for a semi casual event. 


Sunday 7:24 pm

Long conversation between GTS Distribution owner and Blowout Cards owner Tom Fish.


Sunday 7:22 pm

Angels prospect Jo Adell will sign autographs


Sunday 7:19 pm

The Spring Rolls were good


Sunday 6:52 pm

Overheard: "Last year we got a bunch of good free s*** from here. This year I know it's all down hill.


Sunday 6:50 pm

Guy to girl ratio 20:1.


Sunday 6:47 pm

Some signage and employees working 


Sunday 6:35 pm

Awkward moments sponsored by Sports Card Radio as several members of the Most Wanted List make efforts to avoid interaction in the tight hallways at the conference. 


Sunday 6:31 pm

Will there be a drunk version of Pack Wars from the "Rip Master" again like 2019?

Here is The Master doing a sober version of the game.


Sunday 6:25 pm

Rock memorabilia in the hotel lobby includes a guitar from Chris Isaak. The signer is from twin's hometown of Stockton, CA. 


Sunday 6:15 pm

A quick break in beautiful Arizona


Sunday 5:35 pm

Schedule for the conference.


Sunday 5:27 pm

In the discussion for worst dressed. Shorts WAAAAY too short, jersey looks like his little league one, might have suggested contact lenses if he has them when wearing a jersey.

A total mess.


Sunday 5:25 pm

What came inside the Topps Silver Pack


Sunday 5:22 pm

Free stuff handed out when you registered for the conference.


Sunday 3:14 pm

There is pole near Arizona State University with baseball cards stapled as high as you can reach.


Sunday 2:06 pm

Sports cards have been red hot. I expect to see these dealers looking crisp. Here is my day one outfit. Check back as I will critique the attire of some of the conference attendees. 

Shirt: '2 Legit' Essence Cannabis Dispensary - Las Vegas - T-Shirt
Pants: Lululemon ABC Pants - Size 34
Shoes: Jordan 6 Rings - Size 13
Watch: Rolex Daytona (Colin's)


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