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- Created on Friday, 13 June 2014 05:00
Posted by: Ryan
Some random thoughts about the National Sports Collectors Convention. Check out some of the videos and photo galleries from past Nationals at the very bottom of the page. The videos can give you a feel for the show and what to expect.
Despite the overwhelming amount of dealer tables, you can easily feel like you've seen enough after a day or or so. Not every table will have something you are interested in, you can check out what fits your collecting style. I'd stay for 10 days if it went that long and totally go broke, but I guess people have to go home at some point.
The Topps Line
What's even more amazing is Topps spends far less marketing themselves at the show compared to Panini, and believe it or not, even some Group Breakers. Every corporate company at the National would kill for the line Topps gets. Every single one of them. Topps can handle the situation however they see fit. What a fortunate position they find themselves in. The worst thing that could happen is for the line to disappear.
People will talk your ear off. Not the card dealers for the most part. It's usually guys promoting a website or some kind of service. Nobody cares about your website when there are 500 dealer tables with treasures to be found. C'mon.
It's amazing how many fake autographs and/or cards get "authenticated" by PSA, BGS, JSA, etc. at shows like this. Scary. You guys need to tighten it up, even though I know you're on a short turnaround at shows. I let some things go last year that were egregious errors and I for sure won't bite my lip this year.
Panini spends so much money on marketing, and it's on full display at the National. If they just spent that money on making better cards the word would spread without any effort.
The Midwest is a hotbed for sports collectibles. It should come as no surprise why the National is held in Chicago or Cleveland as of late. If you live in California like I do, or on the West Coast, don't complain. They make these things called airplanes and they are fantastic.
Videos From Past NSCC Shows
2013 National Sports Collectors Convention - Chicago
|Photo Gallery's From Past NSCC Shows|
|Past NSCC Write-ups|
- Created on Sunday, 04 May 2014 01:58
By @SportsCardNews -
Let's get one thing straight. Panini and Topps could care less about your shop or online business. You are a dime a dozen. Panini and Topps sell products to wholesale distributors or quasi ones. Those are the real customers. That's who Panini and Topps stroke off. You know who else gets fluffed and buffed? The sports leagues and athletes. Without a license from a sports league or players association, just about everyone at Topps and Panini would be looking for another job.
Anyone Can Buy Wholesale. Literally.
Make sure to pay any sales tax, if applicable, to your state. Pay your state/federal income tax like you normally would. You don't even have to sell the boxes if you don't want to. Just tell the sports card distributor you "sell online" or do "group breaks". There are several distributors that will sell to you without any or much vetting process. Or, once you have your tax id number, just sign up for the business to business Dealer Net and buy products off there.
Here are a couple newer products that are cheaper at quasi-distributors. Prices are from May 3, 2014.
|Wholesale Price||Quasi Wholesale Price|
|2014 Topps Tribute Baseball: $198||Blowout Cards Price: $194.95|
|2014 Famous Fabrics Big Apple Baseball: $85||Steel City Collectibles Price: $74.95|
|2013-14 Panini Totally Certified Basketball: $85||Blowout Cards Price: $84.95|
|2013-14 Score Hockey Jumbo: $50||Steel City Collectibles Price: $49.95|
|Illegal Rafflers Can Become Dealers
It's astonishingly easy to buy sports card boxes at wholesale cost. There is no barrier to entry. Hobby shops and online sellers have no protection aside from their reputation and level of customer service. The card companies and wholesale distributors don't weed out bad actors, essentially allowing anyone to become a dealer.
|MVP Sports Cards
3333 Bardstown Rd Suite 5
Louisville, Kentucky 40218
This card shop, located in Kentucky also advertises that they conduct illegal raffles (razz, razzing) on BoxBusters.TV and their Facebook Page.
Sin City Sports Cards
Well known in the "razzing" community, Sin City Sports is supposedly closing their brick and mortar location. I've witnessed Sin City Cards raffling off spots for a case of 2013 Panini National Treasures Football on Breakers.TV.
For a short time DA Card World conducted illegal raffles. Quasi distributors aren't necessarily the most noble or sharpest knives in the drawer. If a company is "proud" to take part in illegal activity, what else might they be willing to do?
Side Note: Are "Group Breaks" Even Legal You Jerk?
I have no idea. Maybe they are illegal. You could pay the best lawyer to tell you they are legal or not. Guess what? Lawyers don't make laws. If you encounter legal trouble for conducting group breaks, guess what your lawyer will say? "That's unfortunate. Let me look into this for you (pause) at $250 an hour. Trust me, we can beat this."
Raffles, like the ones you clowns do on BoxBusters.TV, are clearly illegal. Clear as day. If you need a lawyer to explain how those raffles are illegal you might be the dumbest person on planet Earth.
Products Are Weak
Panini and Topps are trying to "hit the numbers", just like every business you've probably worked for. And in a low margin game like producing licensed sports goods, attention to detail isn't high on the priority list. Churning out sticker applied autographs and using redemption cards clearly doesn't suggest they care about the perception of their product. Panini and Topps know they have enough people out there with a gambling itch. Are you one of them?
So wait! There are a few products each year that have demand. Yes! Whoo Hoo! This is when hobby shops and online sellers make all their money right? Wrong! This is when Panini, Topps, and the wholesale distributors cash in!
Eliminate Bad Actors
Anyone should be given a shot to start a sports card business. But there needs to be far more regulation from distributors and card companies when bad sellers arise. Illegal "razzers" should not be able to buy from a wholesale distributor and conduct a business. It's a slap in the face to hard working shop owners and group breakers trying to run a legitimate operation. It takes money out of their pocket. Selling cases/boxes is hard enough, allowing individuals who freely flaunt illegal activity to become dealers gives further credence that the sports card industry is a joke.
- Created on Friday, 18 April 2014 03:18
|2013 National Sports Collectors Show
Show Dates: 7/30/2014 - 8/3/2014
International Exposition (I-X) Center - Cleveland, OH
Wednesday 7/30/2013 4pm-8pm
Thursday - Saturday 10am-6pm
Sunday 8/3/2013 10am-5pm
| UPDATED: Links - Videos - Blogs - Tweets From The 2014 NSCC
You can also buy admission tickets the day of the show. No lines, real easy, you'll just pay a couple $ more.
|Panini's 3rd Annual National VIP Party - Information|
|2014 National Free Giveaways|
Panini 2014 Wrapper Redemption Packs
- 60 Total Cards
Details on what boxes you need to purchase
Panini 2014 VIP Set
- 6 Total Cards
A coupon for this set will be inserted in every VIP
Tools of the Trade Update Wrapper Redemption
- 6 Total Cards
Base Jersey #/175
Promotion limited to the first 200 customers during
2013-14 Gold Standard Basketball
Donruss Wrapper Redemption
- 3 Cards
The first 50 collectors who bring and open a hobby box
Upper Deck Wrapper Redemption
Purchase 5 Packs Of
Or 1 pack of 2014 SP Game-Used Golf
Wrapper redemption starts at 10:25 on Thursday - and you
Topps Allen & Ginter Mini Wrapper Redemption
- 2 Cards
Collectors must open 1 Hobby Box of 2014 Topps
Topps Mini Card Wrapper Redemption
- 8 Total Cards
Collectors must open 3 hobby packs of any 2014
Read about past Nationals to know what to expect in Cleveland for 2014.
|2013 NSCC Chicago||2012 NSCC Baltimore|
|Videos From Past NSCC Shows|
|2013 National Sports Collectors Convention - Chicago
|Photo Gallery's From Past NSCC Shows|
- Created on Tuesday, 18 March 2014 19:01
I was able to sit on the sofa the last few days and follow the 2014 Industry Summit via twitter and all the
"inside" sources I have .... which are none. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see an announcement bragging about
a 'record breaking' number of attendees. That's ok - less is more often times.
Seemed to me (from the sofa) Panini stole the show with some 'innovative' ideas they've been working on.
A patch card DB, Panini Rewards - that replaces redemption cards, and 14/15 NBA rookie cards are all things
(if Panini pulls them off) should go a long way in engaging collectors even further.
Topps (from the sofa) seemed about the same. Said they were making less product and they are "made to order"
so I guess that means the sales are down. They plan to advertise on Nickelodian. I bet that's not cheap. If sales are
down, it's because your product isn't compelling - not because you don't have ads on Nickelodian. Good luck.
Upper Deck is 25 years old, but acts like one twice as old. At least there are signs of life in SoCal.
Don't expect many innovations as they are just buying time to sell once that's possible.
Group Breakers. The companies are on record they account for about 10% of sales. That's no chump change
when you add it all up. That's probably why I've been very vocal on looking for ways to legitimize that business
model. They should work together on figuring out ways they can operate without risk of breaking raffle and
lottery laws. Trust me, 10% of $100,000,000 is enough to get a lawyer out of bed one day.
Thanks to the tweeters from the event. My comments below are not meant to patronize their work in any way.
Brian Gray is here. #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 16, 2014
After posting a sheepish apology on Leaf's Facebook page
Leaf acquires the rights to Sportkings http://t.co/KHLvUx4jEr— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 17, 2014
For a heck of a lot less than you think .....
Topps: This year, we have them signing already (during spring training) and about 5 months ahead of the game #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 17, 2014
So .......... they just figured out this would be a good idea?
Topps: redemption site is antiquated and will merge that with regular site soon. #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 17, 2014
This is probably more difficult than making the cards bro!
Topps' David Reel: This year we are going to sell significantly more hobby than retail. #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 17, 2014
That's because it's not selling through at retail.
Topps: New for 2014 Topps Tek, Stadium Club and Topps Dynasty (a high-end like no other) #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 17, 2014
Tek wasn't that popular back in the day, but Stadium Club was pretty cool.
Topps: Average collector is older than we would like. Engage kids at Play 60 (nfl), ads on TV for BB on Nick, CN, Disney #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 17, 2014
Ads on TV are hard to measure, expensive and in the hands of an amateur - a great way to burn money.
So along with buying cards from a website, a collector can also pick the option of picking cards up at a physical shop, no shipping charges— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 17, 2014
Referring to a Beckett Business Solutions service. Seems like a good idea.
BBS: there is a need for a employees. One of the ways we failed is by having 1 or 2 employees at shops #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 17, 2014
I owned a card store. You can't have employees if margins are < 10%
Larry: After a due diligence process we did what we needed to do what was best for the industry and UD exclusive was the way to do. #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 17, 2014
Where "due diligence" = who offered the most guarantee $$$$$$$$$$
Larry: The things we felt with an exclusive outweighed those aspects. Bringing down # of brands, bringing a .99 cent brand back #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 17, 2014
Remember the NBA said similar things when Panini originally got an exclusive. Panini now releases 20+ products per year.
NHLPA is running a promo. Putting up $75K. Card show owner provides a plan on how to get kids in and collect hockey cards #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 17, 2014
That's the million dollar question - but they are only offering up 75k.
— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 17, 2014
Panini is still supposed to do (NHL) stickers still, so I hear #lvis
That's because fat cat in Italy screamed - STICKERS MAKE MONEY!!!!
Goldin employee: my boss wants to be the Jeff Bezos of the industry (re: putting money back into company) #lvis
— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 17, 2014
Amazon doesn't make a profit. Shareholders have though ....
Panini: Adding a Flawless Hockey card in each National Treasures BOX to say "thanks." #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
That's nice. If I spent $500 on a box of trading cards, I'd think the company would thank me.
Update: Check that, no thanks
Panini will be doing ... FLAWLESS FOOTBALL! But not at the same price point. #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
Yes, that's because it will be $16,000 a box.
Panini: colors galore in Prizm, lower box price point with still two autos in every box #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
Sweet. Hope they still do JUMBO boxes that deliver further value.
For the NBA Draft Rookie Exchange, you will get a card numbered 1-25 and get the player drafted in that slot #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
Worked well back in the early 2000's - not sure why they don't do this every year.
I thought I was the only person in the world who questions business models?
With a QR code on back, you can scan the card and find it on the Panini site. If the patch doesn't match photo - it's fake #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
So, in other words Panini is creating a patch database for high-end cards. #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
Hope everyone else in the business copies this.
Panini announces Panini Rewards, which will replace redemptions moving foward #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
A reward card in pack (can use on IOS and Android, or web). Register card and build rewards toward cards, items, experiences #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
Rather than a redemption for a specific player, you get a reward point. So you pick the card you want (if you have enough points) #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
I wonder if Kevin Isaacson would call this innovative?
Panini: 2013 was a mixed year. Football had a lot to do with that #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
Can't say I didn't tell all ya'll (on August 11, 2013)
Panini's Tim Franz has seen some YouTube vids or Breaker.tv that "makes me want to vomit." #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
I thought they were saving the hobby!!!!!!!
Manufacturer guesses on what % of wax moves through breakers Topps 8-10%, UD 10-15% and Panini did not guess.— Michael F (@MikesStadiumSC) March 18, 2014
I bet sales to un-opened box retailers are down similar percentages.
Topps: We get about 3,000 orders a week, send about 4,000 #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
They say this to a group of hobby shop owners mind you.
Topps: Taking steps to be more transparent with weekly updates #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
What a great idea Topps!!!!
Topps: 6 months ago was bad, it's not perfect yet.We are getting there slowly #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
6 months ago was bad? Before that must be a term not appropriate for children then.
Topps: Even 30 days out tough for CL. Making changes up until day of packout. #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
Exactly. If the product is live and there's no CL - then you can complain.
Kevin Isaacson asks if people are checking Twitter ... Definitely, not me. #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
Shows you how clueless this guy Isaacson is.
UD: Hockey 2014-15 calendar: Aug: MVP; Sept: OPC; Sept: Fleer Ultra; Oct: Artifacts; Dec: UDS1 #lvis— Sooz (@yanxchick) March 18, 2014
So if you like high end hockey .... you've got plenty of time to save up!
Topps today, after Panini's Industry Summit announcements pic.twitter.com/Qw02N6ois0— MikeE P (@CubsfanP) March 18, 2014
Nothing cool ever happens this day .... at the Summit that is.